tires. likewise radio, bicycles and clocks. the common american could no longer purchase after spring of 1942. all of those mechanisms were used in the war effort. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> up next, john hughes, chief oral historian in the secretary of state's office recounts political view of the 3 term republican senator from washington state. this is just under an hour. >> good evening. i am diane douglas. executive director of city club. we are excited to welcome all of you here for a very special night for city club and to celebrate the 55 year career of one of washington's nation's leaders. we are very grateful to see -- c-span for covering it and
making this available to citizens for what washington and throughout the nation. so tonight the international center, gordon center was created about two years ago and is so meaningful that was created by colleagues of senator gort and friends and former staff members. that says a lot about his leadership that they stayed together as friends and colleagues and made such a warm connection to him and his work. we are proud of that partnership and thank them for being here and making this program possible especially to our partner in coordinating the program tonight. b. gordon center is dedicated to learning about public policy and the papers of senator gorton from the 9/11 commission has well as presenting public programs and other memorabilia
and information from his career in politics. i would like to introduce the people who will be spearheading our conversation tonight. first john hughes. he is a biographer who wrote this terrific book. john has a long history of service to our state as a journalist and as an author. he has written several books about governors and leaders of washington state. a biography of bruce gardner. this book, half a century in politics and nancy evans and lee ann walker. washington state civil-rights leader. he has had over a 42 year career in journalism winning many awards for investigative reporting, historical features. he is working on a biography and
he was just writing about ray lee and told me he was happy about having a break from the intensity of that encounter to talk to us tonight. next i would like to introduce senator slade gorton to thank him for his long-term service to washington state and all of us. he has really characterize his bipartisanship.grity, intense policy and his great intellect. something we wish was pervasive in political leadership today and he has missed in terms of representing us and has really missed in washington d.c. and we're so grateful for his legacy and finally filled connolly.
another distinguished journalist who has served our community through his work at the seattle post-intelligencer in print and online and he has been a columnist for many years and you can still enjoy his columns so with that i will turn the program over to john and we will get started. >> i first met slade gorton in 1966 when the 22-year-old rookie reporter covering the legislature. it so happens if a man who introduced us was my former adviser. an amazing democrat. when he introduced me to slade he said that he was kerri smart and someone i thought was a scary smart spoke volumes. i don't know where the time has gone but i keep interviewing men and women in their 80s and 90s to larry real inspiration. the other day i was trailing dan
up the steps of the capital and he was taking from two at a time on artificial knees but the really fascinating thing about the job that i have now is to take the experience i gleaned from covering a lot of amazing people like slade gorton and dan evans and to write biographies and there are so many stereotypical notions about slade gorton in particular. the notion that he is a right wing republican, unscrupulous, thinks spotted owls taste like chicken. all of the above. it really doesn't square with the person that i cover for all those years. joel connelly, my friend and colleague for all these years better than anyone took the time to portrait shades of gray.
not enough for slade gorton but in my view in a really outstanding way. i will give you a thumbnail. pretty amazing to me. i lived and covered a lot of it but when i had the time to start doing research and working at the state library with some amazing resources of microfilm from every newspaper in the state and access to online news engines. longer than that, 56 years in all has been active in political history of his adopted state and collective legislature in 1958 as a 30-year-old with an amazing politician in his own right. the most fascinating thing to me early on was to see the battle of wills between slade gorton and bob, senate majority leader,
democrat over redistricting. they all knew that if they couldn't do something to prevent greed from winning once again that the republican party would be reduced to a minority party for the next decade. the redistricting, a lot is coming full circle because two of my best sources were deemed foster who was a young college student and sorcerer's apprentice in redistricting worse and professor mc30, and later we will talk about redistricting 1963 versus 2012. and it seems it is almost gonelike that he is there when all these amazing things happen. a coup d'etat in 1963 that toppled the speaker of the house john o'brien. he met john goldmart and they became his favorite sparring
partner with a very liberal democrat who was accused of amazing libelous fangs in terms of communist politics. that is the slade gorton's friendship with a brilliant young attorney who defended goldmark and his wife against charges that they were communists tools of the communist conspiracy i think the phrase was. slade gorton did that as a republican at large risk to his reputation. and his run for attorney general in 1968. and then one of the first highest-ranking elected officials in america, richard nixon's resignation in what slade referred to as nixon burdened america with a moral climate of cynicism and suspicion. i had a front row seat for the
landmark decision on indian fishing rights because when legislature was in session i covered the indian nation in the rise of a lot of young indian -- it is encyclopedic what he has done. forget landmark elections. some of the closest and most decisive in american history just a tour they force campaign to defeat warren magnuson. nighters the kids say, the goldwash campaign. a great senator and washington's next great senator. when you bring it full circle, if he had done none of that when you look at his achievement, singular achievement on the 9/11 commission by trent lott in the service to america that alone
would have been worth a major boat. did he strive for consensus rather than this view we have painted of this partisan, working with interest democrats, drove consensus, for fact-finding that i would assert makes america safer today because of it but enough of that. what was yours? >> for almost ten years after i left the senate in 2001 i would be asked by well-meaning acquaintances when i was going to write my memoirs and i always have off that question. the true answer was never. not under any circumstances am i
going to put myself in that kind of discipline. then along comes john hughes to do it for me. and do it with a greater degree of quality and thoroughness than i could have accomplished on my own. i can count the number of hours that he interviewed me directly but that was only the tip of the iceberg. he knows more about my remote ancestors than i did. and he talked to friends and colleagues and opponents and enemies. i learned a great deal by reading the draft and the book itself. i learned things that were absolutely true that i didn't tell him because i had forgotten
them. but beyond that i learned things that i never knew. i am short obviously it were the case. so i have been blessed by wonderful good fortune in not having found john but having john find me. and evans and i agree that in most respects the aberdeen daily world editorial board was the one we were most interested in visiting because everyone was simply interested in a learning what we were about and not debating the -- that point. extremely fortunate to have him for what he has done and now in my process -- i can tell you he sends me those chapters in brief that that will be a fascinating
story and book when it comes out. he did mention the 9/11 commission. i reflected afterwards very close loss in the year 2000. i still feel today was a loss for the state and for the country but it was an amazing game for me. the things i have been able to do not only with family but in other opportunities as well. more than made up for another six years in the senate and the 9/11 commission was a unique lifetime experience. ten people. 5 republicans and five democrats, and not to succeed never the less over a period of
a year-and-a-half change not only knowledge but a degree of respect for one another that made it imperative to all of us that we come out unanimously to the last footnote as we did and that's anonymity, not only to be so forceful but to be probably more successful than any similar endeavour. perhaps in the history of the country itself. and to go on any more into a wonderful biography, it is your turn. >> reading robert caro's latest volume of lyndon johnson the memory came to mind of a wonderful cartoon by paul conrad showing a wise figure beginning to write the history of the
johnson administration with his right hand while lyndon johnson had his arm in a lock and dictating what was going to be in the memoirs. question for both of you to john, you find your book something to be preoccupied with his legacy? are you preoccupied with your legacy? >> you did one of the first reviews that pointed out that the legacy project for which i am chief historian is not interested in geography in any way. the ground rules when i took the job were that we were going to do meaningful work not subject to favor but the subjects themselves didn't get to be the editor and slade from the get go
wouldn't have wanted that. he was very understanding about some of the harsh things people had to say. don't know if he bristled not in private but it was an interesting experience. his wife was an absolute amazing resources. one of the things about the book is it offers brad about what it is like to be a political wife and a mom and daughters. there is a wonderful scene when the gorton girls who took things with a little more seriousness than did their dad who happens to be in the same view with you at easter in episcopal church and the sign of peace -- [laughter] >> so he never asked for dorr
got any special favors in the biography and it was a real treat to spend that much time. when we did journalism and what you are doing so ably, you always wish you had time to kick back and to a longer forum and this is it. >> if i had been primarily interested in the legacy i would have written it myself. >> let's talk about the 9/11 commission and the baker commission on the texas city refinery explosion where you examine the culture of bp. i was watching the news in canada last night and there was a commission that just reported on the police conduct during the g h summits. i timed it. they devoted 12 minutes of an hour-long program to what this report said to films of this to
people talking about it. do you believe when we have invested in what you undertook on 9/11 and also on the baker commission that these reports have gotten adequate attention particularly in the case of the bp report where you backed out thing like the culture of the company that came home to roost two years ago? >> my bottom-line conclusion is bp is a rogue corp. and we found that it had no corporate safety philosophy during the course of that investigation. there were 11 of us. jim baker secretary of state was the chairman. seven members of the commission received the experts. four were lay people.
but again, we reach unanimity about agreed this degrees of negligence on the part of the corporation. perhaps best expressed by our last interview when ward brown. the c e o of bp would not come to the united states to be interviewed but had to be flown luxury style to london lodged in a fine hotel and given free to or three hours. he was so disciplines he was told he could speak for half an hour and he spoke for 30 minutes without going ten mexicans over one way or another. the first question was from the union representatives. someone from the ozarks to stress the background. he said i would like you to tell
me now what you felt when you heard about these deaths and injuries. what your emotional response was to which ward brown proceeded to answer for 15 minutes what he did which he had already covered. one of jim baker's lawyers who was sitting behind me leaned over and said in my year a perfect michael dukakis and sir. and it was. and we shredded bp in that. for that and other reasons brown had to retire early. in some respects their refinery safety record improved. obviously there drilling safety record didn't improve. so they had a second major
accident with fatalities. there refutation affects the entire industry but it is bp that had these problems and i don't know if there any better today in the long run than they were when we started. that is a long answer on that one. the 9/11 commission was an inquiry into the past i believe the day in which we started, we all implicitly and some explicit the reach the conclusion that if we couldn't write a history unanimously we were wasting our time and taxpayers' money.
from the very beginning sir any general represented the president very badly. after he set no two three times to request we go to press and washington post and new york times and editorials and they give us what we wanted from beginning to end. he wasn't going to let as interview the president and two of us get 15 minutes with the president's. sitting in the oval office far longer than i did in 18 years cumulatively in the united states senate president bush asked every question of every member. but the bush and ministration got the reputation of having interfered and frustrated the 9/11 commission for when in fact all we wanted from it.
having reached an agreement on the facts we had to go through both the description of the enemy we were fighting and a set of recommendations and we just found the incentive to agreed on those even when reasonable people couldn't disagree was simply overwhelming and the last agreement on the functions of the fbi was made at 10:00 the night before we were going to announce we were going to put to bed report itself. it was a phenomenal experience. it was a magnificent staff. it was a group of hard-working people. their partisanship, we were in the midst of a presidential election campaign in august of 2004 to do something that would
help the country. it was followed to and the considerable experience that our recommendations were adopted by congress far better than that. >> and when you come to the senate in 1988 joe lieberman was elected the same year. they bonded a trip to hungary. something of that nature. on the opposite side of the aisle you like to each other and cooperated on things and if in the 2000 election you did not want al gore to be president of the united states. senator lieberman coming here as vice-presidential nominee had to deal with the fact that his friend was running for reelection on the other party.
i am interested in asking you what are we losing when the participants in that kind of relationship namely where you were adversaries and go at each other and cooperate others and also enjoy each other's company. are we losing that and what we losing as a result of that? >> i can more precisely say what we gained from that particular relationship and that was that joe lieberman and i with the extent of our leadership sent out rules for the conduct of president clinton's impeachment trial in the senate and sought to it that there was efficient debate at the beginning of a middle and an end. i think you cover that in the
biography. whether or not that would happen again under similar circumstances i can't say. there is still some pretty good cross party relationships in the senate. but for the first time in history the best analysis of voting records in the national journal the last congress shows there was no philosophical crossover between members of the two parties--in other words the most liberal republican was more conservative than the most conservative democrat. when i was there, there were probably 25 overlaps, 25 senators in the party's new crossover philosophically. that led to more positive answers than the present system
does buy a significant degree. >> looking from the outside in, how do you deal with that question? >> i was struck on the night that slade gorton defeated warren magnuson one of the first policy got was from jackson who said congratulations. we are the senators from western state. let's meet for lunch. peter jackson affirmed the bond and you had written about it, the environmental consensus that revolved around that friendship. i was struck by the fact that in interviewing trent lott and bob kerrey and joe lieberman and others and analyzing voting records in the national journal that we see today in 2012 dramatically more polarization that existed in your time in the senate. in fact dan evans's blockbuster
new york times magazine piece about why he was leaving the united states senate and how frustrated he was. did not get into the bush cabinet as well. vanity fair has a new article in this man for -- this month's edition on how polarized things are. >> would sir elite appear to be that way. we have one other thing in a bipartisan way in the state and you came together again recently to redistrict our congressional boundary. and so we do not have things making 200 miles through the state. republicans have gerrymandered ohio and the democrats have gerrymandered illinois and republicans gerrymandered north carolina. we have a 221 system two people
from each party and some serving opposite parties and a fifth person to break the tie. >> we do not have a tiebreaker. that is the genius of system. [talking over each other] >> in the 1916s and having done this -- that we have the best single system in the united states and a largely it is because there is no tiebreaker. we are one of only two or three states that has an even number of members drawing the lines. whether it is or tiebreaker the two parties don't talk to those and the plan includes to the tiebreaker is and decides which way to go. in our case we have got to go along. we have a specific deadline new year's day. to spend new year's eve in
>> looking at the country as a whole, bill bradley was in town this week and a book tour, same as a result of the gerrymandering and partisanship, we now have only 60 feet in the entire 430 day seat house of representatives that is described as competitive. what is the advantage of having such seats in terms of quality of people we set back in the capital? >> well, there is any specific answers to that. it's great from the point of view when the national mood changes to have congress, especially the house of representatives who don't redistrict senate seat change. you get those who perhaps go through foot the voters will. you don't necessarily get the
greatest leaders in that fashion. but the problem advantage of single party districts and cd you get the -- either you get really bad people who can't be -- you can even become female, also most of the leadership because they are there, relatively safe, can take most of your posts. they are more likely to reach across party lines. so sometimes you get out the best in the worse that of single party house. >> one question for john before i shed a bad is you were the editor. chris harper county was two in the state but photogenic teen 72 for republican candidates, most of the church mcgovern.
in 1894, grays harbor county voted for republican senator, slade gorton. i'd like you to do microanalysis of the place where you live. >> guest: well, does i wrote roadkill democrats. slate more than any other person came and offered empathy for what was happening. there's wonderful mind the way soliloquy where he says it that it was ironic that someone from seattle who neither had their fishes doesn't know much about like emily turned that to be a champion of rural people, you know this by heart, to represent the real working-class people in america. they guided. in the wake of the clip for us son, which you and i both covered, we know that the
allegedly predict it will have a we were going to have on the peninsula and amounted to about zero and it didn't let ed gordon who was wrongly cuckoos off than if being a demagogue step dad and really tried to mediate things. so they responded. in response to court and been in the trenches. more than any other politician we saw slate, not then, not god and his staff. >> raise your hand at all come to you. >> one second come away for the night. >> i eventuate a few pages i was able to be that the new pope. i actually read the first three chapters and then i jumped to the end because i wanted to see how it all came out.
[laughter] but the thing that impressed him most the most was the 9/11 commission will. bipartisan, five democrats, five replications were able to come to some consensus. and my question is, was how could make it to dna congress? >> i've been asked that question very frequently and i don't believe there's an answer because the 9/11 commission and stylus task was and is controversial is an issue that involved process judgments are made by people who didn't have a direct responsibility to vote, they didn't have to write to get the job, and separately with a
single issue. i think you can use the 9/11 commission maybe its the best possible example of how such commissions should work on their bipartisan and they don't always by any stretch of the imagination. but i think it's hard to make it a precedent for how congress would, you know, would work. let's see, three of us -- give us had experience in congress. almost all the rest in some kind of governmental activity 12 former governors, since some of the training about getting on with people on the other side came from not. but other members who had never been for a displayed in court
and won it, too. it's a better example for their commissions than it is for congress. >> yes, for merritt island the senate, which you comment on the rule of the lobbyist and you think there should be tighter parameters around the liberal clerics >> well, i will start by saying i am a lobbyist today. registered sh and one of the parts of the first amendment guarantees the right to petition congress for a redress of reason we have to register. we have to say we are worth representing. we can't take a member of congress to muncher cup of coffee anywhere. i think personally lobbyists are
greatly overregulated at the present time and for that matter i think members of congress have overregulated them so in connection with many personal relationships. >> we have been impressed very much by the ability of different thoughts and positions to come to agreement on redistricting and the state of sin. my question really is coming to you think that same spirit can be achieved to overcome the position we're in now where we have $15 trillion deficit carrying over to her children are >> my answer is that it has to be. i will say, i think the worst thing that happened to barack
obama was getting a 60-vote democratic majority in the mid-state senate when he became president because they gave him the view then that his party could break filibusters and that he did not have to be bipartisan. i think if he had only saved 57 democrats, the country with hardly be better a two-day because he would've reached out and some of the most controversial of those goals would've been reached in the way that crossed party lines because the issues most important and how we're going to deal with entitlements in the recording to do two and $1.5 trillion deficit or not want to be solved by one party alone. it's possible double of the congress and a president that
was very similar a year from now. it is possible that all will be republican. one thing that is not possible as it won't be 60 republicans in the senate, even if their immaturity. but in many respects, to require both sides to be responsible in order to meet these challenges i think is one of the foundations of the things that are to be successful. >> a question from john. i know you interviewed lots and lots of people in preparation of research for this book, including many, many women who worked were slade over the years. many of his staffers, former staffers. i happen to know some of them. >> intimately. >> i am married to one just to
clarify. when i got to know through these women coming universally worshiped slade gorton as one of the best losses they've ever had, the best manager they've ever had, one of the most decent human beings i've ever worked for. if you could enlighten, white women were shut slade gorton? >> you probably eyed to ask the women. who was it, anna perez was press secretary. was it and those who said something about you being utterly colorblind, an equal opportunity employer and always, that slade is come in the course of doing this book for people who alleged that either chauvinistic and i had to laugh out loud. nothing could be further from the truth.
he is the father of daughters. he married a bright and strong women who was actually a former journalist. he's had around him recruited and promoted a remarkable cadre of successful women. jamie gorelick on the 9/11 commission come a centrist democrat told me she drove all the stereotypical things about slade gorton inhibitors them about her, but she wishes flabbergasted to see what a warm, and nurturing kind of guy she was. not slade will maintain said he laughed out loud early on and we'd known each other for so many years. he says he may have noticed i'm not the world warmness human being. i said to tell. his staff, male and female alike, sound and always accessible, it was always slade
come in every senator appeared for the youngest and turned to the most seasoned phd or legal aid, he was just plain slade them as they are to be supported. and when they last, sally told me the story that one of the most agonizing things to him was to go through the rolodex and really try to ensure to tell his staff is going to be all right and they worked incredibly hard to find them jobs. so i think that he is, for a large cold fish, he is really deep down in a closet softy in particular for females. >> let me follow-up on that, though. there's a slightly broader question here and that is, how with all of the things that somebody has to do the merit the united states senate do you not become dependent on your staff,
or how were you able to separate that which you have to do from what they do for you? >> well, you are dependent on your staff. there's a psychic overload. you know, from the day you start and the house of congress -- the country is so complicated in the issues are so complicated that while every member has a certain form of political velocity and is in general terms how he or she stands on the major issues facing the country, there are hundreds of others -- hundreds of other issues and those that come from committees that you're not a member of and they're going to be brought up or there's going to be a request for unanimous consent or someone is asked for an end of the lake.
and you are dependent on staff to give you not those of take or politically nice, but to give you a factual but down so you can deal intelligently with any questions. i found, and john is dirty mention this, i found it very important to cities have, when i started the day with colored by may 1st name and not senator. which is not the habit with most of the members of the body. i rarely listen a person the is closed. i also i guess i'm jealous of the two of you for taking the time. i was quite an editor of teachers, that they would write. at least one told me that she finally framed one when i send it back to her without it being edited and wrote good on it.
another thing i did that most senators didn't do, almost without exception, my staff came from the state were a handgun to school, had a connection with the state. i did not tie your country in higher washington d.c. lifers for my staff as many senators do. i wanted them to come home when they were done. that was something i couldn't force and obviously some of them stayed there, but most of them came back home. i wanted them to be staffers for relevant short period of time, a few years, learned something about their government and come home and be participating governments. it is a great legacy that a very significant number of them have done just that. but it was a reciprocal relationship. they were treated well and they
worked their tails off to make sure they were right and got things right for me. >> i found a quote by emi. slade didn't think of me as i peered the only judge that he made was the quality of my work. his attitude towards gender and race. been on grays harbor were senator mike is was the champion of public courts and labor unions of light, i got to know slade's bundled themes and normal takes very well. senator magnuson had a deserved reputation for having incredibly high quality staff and i thought it slade's nurturing of his own set of bumblebees was impressive. curtis pom, a young man who was a key aid for him in all things
pacific rim -- there is a wonderful story in here that curtis was watching live on tv one might one night in the tiananmen square unfold at work all night. at that morning he had a whole position paper for his senator. but the ball from that is one of slade signature achievement, the non-exclusionary allowed an amazing codeword of bright, young asian people to stay in the united states. >> hello, senator. i have two questions. one is a little lighter than the other. giving your positions at work as attorney general from 1968 to 1980 in some positions you advocated for as attorney general as compared to the perception of your positions is somewhat more conservative as the united states senator, do
departments and the lake into a massive degree can be used simply to reflect team the views of other people. and almost all, not quite other cases they are doing the supreme court the supreme court for the state of washington, those representing the position of some official. the state, often elected from a party other than my own. that is not entirely true when i took a position on nixon's impeachment and the light, those were my own ideas. but after i get frustrated as attorney general because you were really advancing which are philosophy of government is. the >> did you become more conservative cute and, slade
quick >> i've been totally consistent from my first day of representative to my last day. the mac i had a year week a moment as the boat was winding down. i was sad workers and a new addition of ronald reagan's diaries was just being stopped and i know a lot of people maintain that the best thing about any good book is the index, particularly if they're involved in politics, because he has been mentioned if they are they buy a copy. spending a lot of time amended tax is an important thing for any new out there. i found an entry were breaking that that a group of senators had come to him, seeking a judicial appointment for slade who just lost an right to reagan offhandedly said well, i'll give it some consideration, that is then against everything i stood for. i don't have to see that entry
before, it was a real eye opener. she'll covered up really well. his columns about the typical notion at slade was a lockstep conservative certainly wasn't for now. and trent lott when in slate this council because when he brought if he had a largely homogenous group of southern conservatives in a figure with wharton as the majority leader's counsel he was stabbed and say wait a minute, how is this playing with the rest of the country? when i checked the national journal, a very good summary of voting analysis, slate trended libertarian to quite an extent. do you agree with? >> guest: when there were roughly 55 republicans, and i usually bring about 12 of the most moderate or something like that. one of the great lines in the whole history of the 9/11 can
ashen was the dramatic public hearing we had on the day after richard clarke wrote his exposé in his attack on the president. with the deputy secretary of state richard armitage who ended up being responsible for about more than we knew at the time. he was asked whether or not he read declercq spoke. his answer was, i gave it a washington d.c. breed. i looked for my name in the index. >> way to go through one episode, part of the euro history of the state. and that his discussion of the deficit and budget it is caused reagan to break his pencil. >> i was in a republican group. this is fairly early and that they could ministration and a spirited debate on the budget broke out. i made some kind of comment that
caused him to break his pencil straight in half. i don't remember the comment. >> in here without the guy was just engaged. >> i have to put a plug in for newspapers. as a newspaper man for 40 years. i worry about the resources available with a diminishing number of newspapers and political correspondent. who's going to go to read his detailed eye of orpheus christine gregoire or whoever comes after. i really think we all ought to try share pii.com, history light crust cut. but when i cover the washington legislature in 1866, more than 30 credentialed reporters they are. small papers include it, union bulletin, the aberdeen world. we covered it and it's a much
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is that correct? fema conservative political imprint and a very exciting stuff coming up, starting with senator marco rubio florida. his book coming out in june 19, memoir called american son and everyone who watches c-span as he is one of the most interest team and talked about politicians in america right now. a lot of speculation about his future. what is amazing this is the son of two immigrants from cuba who came here as a working-class family and for them to produce a senator who is 41 of the top of the whole country is an amazing story of how we got to that point. >> by the taxpayers, that vote was just becoming out or perhaps come out. >> is this an embargoed a quick >> when you politicians who often want to keep the book under wraps because the media is so hungry to get a hold of a book. so yes, you have to keep a book under wraps. >> a well-known author who has
been on booktv many times, mary schweiker has a new book coming out, was sad about quick >> patriots history of the modern world from smash america and more to the end of world war ii. his take is he is in historian in ohio and his take is to give a conservative perspective on history. he feels most academics, which you may not agree with, the most academics have liberal bias in their accounts of american history and world history and things like use of the atomic those controversies, so we feel is theirs remaining for a conservative perspective on the history of america and the world desperately spoke with the seller called the patriots history of the united states come as a worthwhile to read the next one. >> was your background quick >> i was a history major. i never plan to go into publishing. it was an accident of circumstances i got out of college, but it's been endlessly
fascinating from within 20 years busy forever beat new authors and its second unending education. >> are you personally conservative click >> some of us are very conservative, some of us moderate. our commitment is really finding and bringing out authors who have interesting points of view that are not quite as well represented as may be in other parts of the publishing industry. so that's our unifying concern. >> one or both. former governor huckabee. >> this will be our fourth book with him, letters to his two grandchildren called dear chandler, dear scarlett, but some wisdom in family and faith and life in general about the things he wants his grandchildren to know for the future. sometimes politicians to the best of books that have nothing to do with politics about life in wisdom and family, so we are very excited to have governor huckabee, with a wonderful man.